Posts by Sarah Smiles

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Faith vs Accurate Knowledge

by writetoknow in

although that organization may presently be under going a name change do to recent sex scandals plaguing the group.. .

basing their doctrinal teaching of accurate knowledge from john17: 3 of the new world translation.

however, other translation put the verse this way: and this is eternal life; to know thee, the only true god and jesus christ whom thou hast sent.

Sarah Smiles

Because of this doctrine Jehovah’s Witnesses are not truly baptized into Christ nor are they any longer baptized under the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit , but rather they are under the legal organization of Jehovah’s Witnesses.

When you got baptized they use the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit so like all the other christain churches out their it is just a symbol with no substance. Other wise people who baptized others would have Holy Spirit to give you. I believe it was for a time when they performed miracles.

Did you know that during Rutherford's time he wrote a book called "Jehovah" and the last chapter if you were ready to get baptized you had to admit that United Nations was Satan organization?

Honestly can anyone say you know the person who baptized you and was he filled with holy spirit? Because I could not tell you who baptized me it was at one of those assemblies where everyone lined up. Is this right with the what the bible says! NO. The person who baptized had to have holy spirit.

As far as accurate knowledge, it makes them feel as if they know hidden secrets that has been given to them and no one else knows the secrets. Its bull! Kind of like Free Masons who gives the secrets to the person who is being hood winked! Well If I was fair about it most religions think they are the ones who is going to give knowledge at due season. Read some commentaries.

Got to make the in group think they know more! too bad the secrets are just foolish lies! .

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My sister might be starting a fade.

by BrentR in

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over the past two months she has been emailing me jokes and stories that no jw would ever read.

i ran into her this weekend and she was talking about what she was going to do on her birthday today.

her language around me is also lightly "salted".

Sarah Smiles

I am sorry to hear that her husband has cancer. I hope she gets out and fades away!

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Encyclopedia of Religion and Society

by samiam2b in

here is an interesting, almost secular description of jws:.

http://hirr.hartsem.edu/ency/jehovah's.htm.

encyclopedia of religion .

Sarah Smiles

Thanks good findings. Look at that long references including Russell and Russell.

Interesting stuff! I never heard of those studies! :-)

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Is this abuser a pedophile or messed up victim of abuse

by LearningToFly in

i've been trying to figure this one out for awhile now, it's something i have let go and dealt with but i do have some questions regarding it now.

when i was seven, i had an older jw female cousin who was thirteen who forced me into sexual activities.

she used threat of bodily harm as her way of forcing this.

Sarah Smiles

This cousin also forced my younger sister who was five into sexual activities, which I did not find out about until we were both adult women.

Sounds like she was a pediphile. Most pediphile are vicitims.

Do you have other cousin? Most likely she acted out on your other cousins.

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1919-Truth Triumphant-Or Falsehood Stripped of Its Mask!--PDF!

by Atlantis in

1919-truth triumphant or falsehood stripped of its mask!--pdf!--by a.a. saleeby from cover to cover a.a. saleeby disproves nearly every doctrine of pastor russell.

i believe the "forward" of this book speaks for itself.

download this book here: http://books.google.com/books?id=wgepaaaaiaaj&pg=pa7&dq=truth+triumphant&ie=iso-8859-1#ppa1,m1 cheers!

Sarah Smiles

How do you find these books? I downloaded this book because I want to read what people in the past stated about Russell's writings!

I just hope it downloaded in the right place and not in my laptop!

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Sept KM anti study

by hurricane in

i would like to extend a big thankyou to those posting on the forum who are in fact helping to educate us all with explanations of the scriptures that we may not have previously considered.

channel c is also good for this.. a christians life should be one of continual searching, testing, confirming as this leads to a deeper and firmer faith which can challenge firmly entrenched viewpoints.when i first started to study in 1966 i almost emptied my local library and spent ages in the british museum confirming my new found beliefs, this approach may well be frowned on now.

has anyone done independant research on revelation and thrown in a few maverick comments at the group study, i found out some interesting info regarding the congregations and cities jesus addressed and included them in my answers.

Sarah Smiles

Welcome! no comments at studies but independant research yes! People really should not try to write books on Revelaiton they just become false prophets.

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Going through old photos

by bikerchic in

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i'm doing some scrap-booking and it's getting harder and harder to find pictures of my kids i can put in their books without a jw reference.

either it's been taken at an assembly, or a gathering (you know covered dish...bla.

thing is they all have told me how they hate that they were brought up in that cult and how it's affected their lives so i don't want to bring any more reminders to them.

Sarah Smiles

I thought Bikerchick was something from the 70s! Did you notice I am a senior on here now? I think it should say teenager.

Have fun with the pictures! Can't help you with the scanner.

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Where's the Great Crowd?

by Mrs. Witness in

sorry if this has been discussed ad nauseum, but i'm at work and don't have time to search...i'm having a discussion (argument) with my jw hubby about the location of the great crowd.

we've looked at rev.

4 through 7 and he agrees with me that everything is in heaven "before the throne" until we get to the great crowd... does anyone have any easy-to-understand comments on this subject?

Sarah Smiles

I believe that the GC inherit the kingdom of the heavens and live in the city of new jerusalem where the 144k are also found in revelation , for the millenial reign . The difference to me is that the 144k die as martyrs and are the first resurrection then the second resurrection takes place after the millenial reign .

So who are the 144k? are they people after Christ or before? Are the GC part of the first resurrection?

I would like to know, do you believe that GC are going to be rewarded in the 1st resurrection or do they have to stand in front of Jesus at Judgement after the millenial reign? Are you going to be part of the Judged second resurrection or rewarded like Job 1 st resurrection?

Your concept is very interesting!

JW think they are marking people to rightousness if they take one takes the Watchtower, and if one does not take the mags off to judgement! Do you think one has the right to mark one to judgement or rightousness?

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Going through old photos

by bikerchic in

jw
friends

i'm doing some scrap-booking and it's getting harder and harder to find pictures of my kids i can put in their books without a jw reference.

either it's been taken at an assembly, or a gathering (you know covered dish...bla.

thing is they all have told me how they hate that they were brought up in that cult and how it's affected their lives so i don't want to bring any more reminders to them.

Sarah Smiles

Hey thanks a lot! I think I can do some cutting and pasting and just get rid of what I do not like.

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Going through old photos

by bikerchic in

jw
friends

i'm doing some scrap-booking and it's getting harder and harder to find pictures of my kids i can put in their books without a jw reference.

either it's been taken at an assembly, or a gathering (you know covered dish...bla.

thing is they all have told me how they hate that they were brought up in that cult and how it's affected their lives so i don't want to bring any more reminders to them.

Sarah Smiles

Yes, everytime I look at my mother's photos they are about JW weddings or our family attending large eight day assemblies.

I see some JW wedding pictures from the kingdom hall, and it reminds me how I was not allowed to get married at the kingdom hall with out reason! We were both baptized,in good standings, and went out in service every week. Hmm not good memories but I can not throw them out.

What is so good about looking at a crowd and little children suffering through those large eight day assemblies or were they 14 days? It only remindes me that no one keeps in touch. Or that we stood in a line in front of a building or someones car. The cars were cool!